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    Re: Palin and environment
    If drilling is so environmental than why such a problem in Pennsylvania?
    [link]
    [link]
    Environmental Drilling - oxymoron.
    So what has she done for the environment, specifically please?

    Re: Palin and environment
    Yes,seriously.
    Basically you have to look at the entire life cycle of the material from
    cradle to grave and include environmental needs. I have not seen a
    study on hemp but recall such a comparison of cotton versus polyester.
    This was an old study which would need updating but overall superiority

    Re: Palin and environment
    I am looking for someone to make me a replica flag of George Washington's
    first flag. It would be 100% hemp.
    Any ideas?

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:27:07 -0700, Billy
    wrote:
    OH MY FUCKING GOB! Is anyone as amazed by this as me? What is
    happening? Ho Lee Shit!
    Victoria
    "If the present and the future
    were contingent on the past,
    then the present and the future
    would have existed in the past."
    -Lama Tsongkhapa

    Re: Palin and environment
    news:wildbilly-2EE246.10320807092008@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
    RFK jr made similar contentions as well regarding for drilling for offshore
    oil in the future. U.S. makes 3% of the worldwide oil, yet uses well over
    30% of that worldwide available oil. Its hard to believe that anything

    Re: Palin and environment
    The "never-ending" theorem was taught (taught still?) as part of the
    Louisiana Purchase train of thought in most public schools. Followed by "go
    west, young man". And other fairy tales in such old Hollywood movie
    fabrications as well. Another is Seward's Folly ala Alaska being something
    equally for something to be tamed and domesticated. It ain't just the trees

    Re: Palin and environment
    Frank wrote in news:ka-
    dnYoFv-LeqlnVnZ2dnUVZ_vadn...@ comcast.com:
    seriously? and you still claim that manmade fibers are more
    enviromentally sound?
    tell me, how long does it take nylon to biodegrade? can it
    easily be recycled into paper?
    hemp & linen are both very strong fibers. cloth made from them

    Re: Palin and environment
    Perhaps amongst the large group of people that want the 53 trillion dollars
    that the U.S. government owes for debt, social security, and so forth this
    year. In denial, saving the escalating debt for their
    children/grandchildren. Makes me wonder who is actually "high". Most
    current U.S elected officials are a reflection of such a thought process. A

    Re: Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    I will try that. Thanks.

    Re: Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    Ok, I'll try that. Thanks.

    Re: Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    Try cutting them back a bit. That's worked for me.

    Re: Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    "wayne.delo...@gmail.com" wrote in
    oups.com:
    have you tried topping them? cut off the tops. that sometimes
    forces them to make sprouts.
    if it was too cool they may not make sprouts. if it's too hot
    they don't make sprouts either, until it starts cooling down
    at night.
    i've had years where they didn't start forming sprouts until

    Re: Palin and environment
    I spent 20 years in textile fibers R&D. How bout yourself? ;)

    Re: Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    I can hardly believe that! I'm in northern Wisconsin and my plants
    will just plain freeze to death before then! I sure would like to
    know what the deal is though. This has never happened before.

    Agapanthus without blooms
    I moved to Northwest Arkansas three years ago and each spring have
    observed the emergence of thick, spear-shaped leaves in a portion of
    my new front yard. I have noticed this plant growing in other parts
    of town as well. On a visit to Southern California this summer, I was
    able to identify the plant as the leafy growth of agapanthus - which

    Re: Palin and environment
    Bill wrote in
    news:b2forewagner-8F3D3C.10032007092008@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.super
    news.net:
    a couple:
    [link]
    they have Ts for less than the Amozon link, but fewer colors.
    [link]
    rather expensive, but they carry business attire as well, and

    Re: Palin and environment
    In article
    ,
    Another end-of-time wacko. She sees no reason for conservation because
    a despoiled planet will bring on the end-of-time prophecy
    (re: The Rapture).
    [link] Pt. 1
    [link] Pt. 2

    Re: Palin and environment
    In article
    ,
    Here in California, the coast is a tourist attraction. An oil
    spill would reduce tourist dollars that our economy needs. What
    would we get for the oil that would be pumped? The best guess is
    3 to 4 cents price reduction/gallon in 10 years. The oil wouldn't

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:33:38 -0400, Frank
    I can buy hemp rope or cord at any hobby or home improvement center
    anywhere. They still make it.
    Victoria
    "If the present and the future
    were contingent on the past,
    then the present and the future
    would have existed in the past."
    -Lama Tsongkhapa
    [link]

    Re: Palin and environment
    Obviously you believe in the never ending forest. Keep cutting and they
    will come back the way they were (not happening) Growing hemp could greatly
    reduce impact on forest for pulp for paper.
    The first flag was hemp.
    Ben's Kite string was hemp.
    Constitution was on hemp.
    As far as tree ropes go I will stick with the ones (synthetic) but there is

    Re: Palin and environment
    In article ,
    I¹ve found a place for hemp shirts . Know of any others ?

    <[link]
    ex=apparel&hvadid=1098781721&r ef=pd_sl_62fedlv4vq_b>
    Not anywhere near the quality espoused below. But for US $15 I got a


    Re: Palin and environment
    Frank wrote in
    obviously you know *nothing* about production of manmade
    fibers, especially not versus hemp or linen.
    lee

    Re: Palin and environment
    I don't care about the drug part, but the Woody Harrelsons and Simplest
    person here, tout hemp for fabric and rope uses which to me is just a
    disguise for the stronger drug containing versions. Hemp as a fiber
    went out with invention of nylon and other man mades which are not only
    far superior but in the long run more environmentally friendly because

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:19:53 -0700, "Zootal"
    Exactly.
    Victoria
    "If the present and the future
    were contingent on the past,
    then the present and the future
    would have existed in the past."
    -Lama Tsongkhapa
    [link]

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:18:56 -0400, Frank
    Nope, haven't had a drink or a drug in over 25 years.
    Victoria
    "If the present and the future
    were contingent on the past,
    then the present and the future
    would have existed in the past."
    -Lama Tsongkhapa
    [link]

    Re: Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    I have huge beautiful plants with little tiny nubs for sprouts. They did
    this last year, and it wasn't until late October or November or so that they
    actually grew. I ate b.sprouts all winter long. In February I was picking
    big fat sprouts off of the plants, those that survived the snow and ice
    (which was most of them).

    Re: Palin and environment
    I vote to legalize it. Let the stupid and weak drug themselves to death. It
    will clean up the gene pool. The quality and realibility of the drugs will
    stabalize, and much of the crime associated with drugs will go away.

    Brussell Sprouts with no Sprouts!
    I have been growing Jade Cross Brussell sprouts for years and have
    always had great crops. This year, however, the plants are big and
    beautiful as always but not a sprout to be found! I didn't do
    anything different that I know of. What happened? Anybody else ever
    have this problem?

    Re: Palin and environment
    I do not. Hemp is not to be compared with what you suggest doing. PA
    farmers could grow and earn from hemp. New Holland would design better
    equipment, more jobs and in 10 years of legalization it would help economy.
    Or so they say. I do not support legalizing what you suggest. In fact I
    would oppose it.

    Re: Asiatic Lily
    2004 - we don't have to say that anymore.

    Re: Palin and environment
    Think you're both on hemp ;(

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:12:02 -0400, "symplastless"
    Please learn how to edit. I didn't say what you have me quoted as
    saying.
    I think we should legalize all drugs of all kinds including heroine
    and cocaine and meth and speed and crack and hillbilly heroine. It
    would take the puff out of it and the government can pay for ten

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    Re: Palin and environment
    Legalize hemp for products.
    Georges first flag was made of hemp.
    Ben's kite string was hemp
    constitution was on hemp I believe.
    Hemp would help economy, create jobs, reduce taking on forest, provide high
    quality products.
    Their are solutions that we can LIVE with!

    Re: Palin and environment
    Actually not. However changes in making decisions regarding forest health
    and national forest would be a good start. Rather than making decisions out
    of the ignorance of tree biology based solely on board foot, taking a
    systematic approach based on a thorough understanding of tree biology. Some

    Re: Asiatic Lily
    Just like the Red Sox- wait til next year.

    Re: Asiatic Lily
    Hypatia
    Yes, true lilies are bulbs. And they are once a season bloomers.
    If you have Sunset Garden Book 2001, seventh Edition, look at p. 433
    and start with the 6th paragraph about care after blooming. The stems
    will be turning brown and need to be cut back. When you do this, be
    sure to mark the location so you don't dig them up by accident.

    Asiatic Lily
    When I bought this plant, it had beaucoup lovely blooms. After they
    fell off, I expected, according to the plant tag and the Western
    Garden Book, that I would get lots more. But it's been at least six
    months, and nothing has budged. Not even any new growth, despite TLC.
    This is my first go-around with any Lilium. I didn't even know it had

    Re: Newport plum has to go
    Have you tried looking for a food bank in your area? Or a church?
    I found one in L.A. that was happy to come out for an overabundance of
    plums one year.
    I've recently discovered Desert Willow (chilopsis linearis). They get
    stunning pink flowers, no fruit and they're more drought tolerant.
    They are more shrubby, but can be trained as standards. Or, how about

    Re: Agapanthus and Camellia
    My sister-in-law grows them in Indiana and hers do OK. And, as I
    recall she had a hard time finding them in her area too. I think she
    finally found a mail order catalogue with them. I'm wondering if the
    camellias will offer a little protection from frost too? I've had
    luck saving plants by putting a scoop of compost over them when a

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:36:24 -0700, "Zootal"
    No, just stop giving birth to litters. Have one or two children,
    recycle, pay attention, be mindful of your surroundings, don't kill if
    at all possible, be kind to everyone and animals, tread lightly and
    cease stomping about like an overgrown monkey minded animal.

    Re: Palin and environment
    We should, we kill, ad nauseaum. You deny specific responsibility to giving
    same to everyone (we). Political trickery, and shaming all to accept guilt.
    Not acceptable.
    Brass tacks. The core to most of current problems is twofold. 1st is
    overpopulation of the earth, the 2nd is the dependency of the economic

    Re: Palin and environment
    We should outlaw all technology because it all pollutes and damages the
    enviornment. We should live in caves. We can't build houses of wood because
    we kill trees to make the wood. We can't live in tents - where are we going
    to get the material to make the tent? Heaven forbid we should kill an animal

    Re: Palin and environment
    Two empty suit democrats that have absolutely no history of leadership,
    in any capacity, have been left wing democrats only equaled by the drunk
    Kennedy.
    Anything is better.

    Re: Palin and environment
    In article <31u2c49ivdmcai0aem6gvu8m43op6 7i...@4ax.com>,
    I am reminded of the adage we get what we deserve. Chinese philosophy
    comes to mind.
    We must have strong families so the communities can be strong. The
    communities foster the states and the states foster the country. Of
    course the individual make up the family so ......

    Re: Palin and environment
    On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:09:08 -0700, gardenSPAM-ME-...@paghat.com
    We are so fucking doomed. I said that the last general election. I
    think it is now, though unimaginably worse than it was! I continue to
    depend on reality by watching the "fake" news on the Daily Show and my
    man crush, Stephen Colbert on the Colbert Report. It helps me sleep.

    Re: Palin and environment
    In article , Jangchub
    I liked McCain's promise to stand beside us but not to get in our way of
    making our own success. Sounded like he intended to stand beside the
    suffering & watch 'em suffer, but don't expect him to help. And refusing
    to stand in front is refusing to lead. After all, when asked to define the

    Re: Palin and environment
    Funny you should mention that.
    One of, if not THE only, undrilled salt domes in
    the Gulf Coast Tertiary is in George Bush Sr.
    "back yard". It is in Memorial Park in Houston,
    Texas.
    Oil explorationists have lusted for drilling here
    for decades but so far they have not been allowed
    to do so. Hey, George Sr. could come out for

    Rural Economy and Land Use Programme
     Rural Economy and Land Use Programme [pdf]
    [link]
    From below
    "Eating Biodiversity: An Investigation of the Links Between Quality
    Food Production and Biodiversity Protection"
    ............
    The rural landscape of England has been greatly transformed over the past
    few decades, and this particular research initiative based at the

    Re: Palin and environment
    Not exactly correct. All _tax_ legislation begins in the House. Any
    other kind of legislation can begin in either chamber.
    Chris

     

     

     

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